UT maps nc3 comments

I was tempted to give this map one point because it runs, but that would be being far too generous. This is quite possibly the worst DM map I've ever played. Yes, even worse than DM-RageArena. By far. At least Rage has a little room to move in before you die. Melfunnel_XI consists of a handful of parallel hallways, all of which are scarcely more than 160 UUs wide, making effective evasion virtually impossible. Even though the architecture is simplicity itself, requiring only 22 brushes to create, not one of those brushes is aligned to the grid. Not one. It's almost as if the author tried to employ the most horrible mapping technique possible, but the scary thing is that this map is actually out there being played somewhere. It has mirrors too, used for no reason at all, which is a pet peeve of mine. It reeks of a mapper doing things just because he can, without bothering to wonder if he should.

While trapped in these claustrophobia-inducing hallways, you'll find that every single weapon is in here, along with ammo caches containing about a dozen pickups sitting right next to one another, and eight -- yes, eight -- redeemers. All crammed into a map that's dwarfed by DM-Stalwart. Every pickup is in here as well, if you can live long enough to get them, not that any of them will be of any help. The central area where the hallways meet, which is still too small to move around in, has 18 playerstarts all placed right next to one another, which face outward from the main area to make doubly certain you get shot in the back immediately upon spawning.

To put it succinctly, DM-Melfunnel_XI is to mapping what Battlefield Earth was to film. It's that bad. And you know what the scariest thing of all is? If the map's title is telling the truth, this is the author's eleventh shot at making a map like this, and it still sucks this badly. If it was the author's first map, I would dial the excoriation back a few notches, but after eleven tries, a monkey could produce better work than this. A monkey might even manage better on the first try. (Monkeys are pretty smart.) JonnyMellis should be banned by international law from ever opening UnrealEd again. I pray that he never breeds.

Fordy: Well, some of the above comments were intended to be helpful. :)

Mellburn 07-15-2004 03:21 AM EDT

First of all I have to salut Ironblayde for writing all that text (this map is hardly worth the effort) and for hating it so purely and truely.

I am the admin of the server "MELSOFT SMALL FAST CUSTOM MAPS" and I agree that the map sucks but the gameplay on this server is fast, insane and crazy and the players don´t have time or even care if the map is well-built or not.

The point is that there is players on this server -EVERY DAY and I have not had one single mail suggesting a map removal (yet).Anyway I think Ironblaydes comment is great, I´ve printed it and its now decorating the wall in the "server-room"...But I´ll have to warn you JonnyMellis will keep on mapping and eventually upload to NC3... BEWARE :)

EDIT:Why all this hostility? (Really it´s only a game...)If you guys want something new to hate,

check out the "MelsoftMapackCTF" with 9 new maps by JonnyMellis. EDIT2:The answer to "Dark-JaXx" question: Someone (an UT player I guess...) mailed us and suggested we should put out a "map-pack" for

download online.We have done just that and this map is/was a part of it.

I started to upload the maps 1by 1 to NC3 before I realized it was better to send them all in one zipfile.

-So the error is mine and I am sorry if I have offended anyone in anyway. Keep on fraggin´ :)

Fordy 06-30-2004 01:09 PM EDT Rating: 0

Ironblaydes comments were supposed to be helpful, Obviously you or the mapper couldnt give a sh!t. If your players are so stupid not to notice the crap map they are plying in, then checkout the Stairway to heaven map posted a few weeks back. Considering the sum total of your combined brain cells (all 42 of em) it will no doubt keep you all happy for decades.

[Dark-JaXx] 07-15-2004 02:15 AM EDT Rating: 0

I have a question: why do you put it online if you don't care if it's build right? Most people here gives 1 to 2 points for gameplay, and architecture/lightning/lay-out the other points..

So..visually it sucks, but maybe..maybe it could have something that called gameplay..

But that's old UT style gameplay, and the reason why nobody plays UT anymore..they have play that to much.

Shao 10-11-2004 09:52 PM EDT Rating: 0

wtf

RedFistOfFury 12-07-2004 06:39 AM EST Rating: 0

we all know what my grade will be.

fluffymike 06-26-2005 06:42 AM EDT Rating: 4

not the best melfunnel map by a long chalk, but still playable and fun. Doesn't look too bad either.

some of the comments here reflect a total ability to appreciate other styles of UT - this is a fast a furious UT style, and if you wanna go wandering around maps like this checking out the wall designs, then you're gonna be fried and fast.

if you don't like funnel maps, don't bother to comment - we dont care what you think, we wanna know what people who like funnel maps think.

knullansikte 02-07-2006 10:29 PM EST	Rating: 8
good funnel-map
FreedomSR 07-21-2006 11:55 PM EDT	Rating: 0
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PUT IT AWAY!!!!
kk4s-havok 07-22-2006 05:37 AM EDT	Rating: 5
rox, love these maps Fordy why comment if you dont play them, i don't like jailbreak but i dont go into the map and insult people. you people dont seem to understand these maps at all, they ain't designed to be pretty cos we don't stand there looking at the walls. as for people saying all the guns and pickups are useless, again thats just cos you don't know how to adjust to these type of maps, they all come in handy if used right more funnel maps on NC please if only to anoy people like fordy, and UT2k4 ones please
triplekill 08-30-2006 03:58 AM EDT	Rating: 5
I agree with "kk4s-havok" even though funnels is not my favorites... (but they tend to "grow" on to me...)

MikElectric 04-30-2007 07:28 AM EDT
[Admin: Comment removed for having an extra chromosome]
Soraymustdie 06-22-2007 05:14 PM EDT
lol...Ironic FTW!

CTF-MelMazey

User Rating 1.5

Map Comments :

quillion 10-31-2004 04:01 PM EST Rating: 1

Ok, where to start! Let's start with the lighting.

Lighting is poor, to say the least. Saturation is way over the top and the colours, ranging from yellow to purple, really have no affect on the look of the map.

Well, that's not strictly true. The lighting does have the affect of making the map look, horrible.

Items have been forgotten in this map, so i can't comment on that. Architecture is nothing but wall after wall with the odd intersected brush, to create doorways..no real effort has been taken to make it look at all realistic or pleasing to the eye. The map is surrounded by a tall mesh fence which, if it didn't have a HOM all along its base and the skybox wasn't so poorly aligned, it would look ok-ish.

Game play is very annoying. You do nothing but snag on badly laid brushes and steps in the floor.

Nothing in this map is worth keeping, but i will say that Mel sure has his own style;D

NikKke 10-31-2004 05:27 PM EST Rating: 2

hmm. oh yeah! it is horrible. kinda funny tho.. guess it CAN be fun to play, but it sure eats all my FPS.. yep the light are ugly.

about the gameplay. most of the maps is never even needed cos theres 1 straight route from flag to flag. but i liked the powerful kickers.

RedFistOfFury 12-07-2004 06:44 AM EST Rating: 1

one word: one!

EvilSwanky 12-07-2004 10:23 AM EST

Not even worth to rate it...

Evil Snack 12-07-2004 02:56 PM EST

Well..................um...................I won't give you a score.

John DiFool 12-07-2004 08:28 PM EST

Here's hoping the author will take the hint. What's with all the "EvilXXX" monikers BTW?

CTF-MelAnkhSE

Map Description:

Small map with fast gameplay, inspired from the start map of Quake.

Map Comments :

Nahand 07-15-2004 03:04 PM EDT

... game screenie looks start of Quake :p ...

Jebidiah 07-15-2004 11:57 PM EDT Rating: 2.5

Alrighty then... Half point for running, and another two points...

well, just 'cause. To prove that I'm not totally unfair,

I will admit that this map could be ammusing for clans or folks who just want a quick,

crazed match. What you get are a couple of rooms with skyboxes that appear to be from "Face."

You can get between the rooms by jumping through a hole or over some small gaps.

Yeehaw! The absence of weapons or sounds and strange oddities

(like small panels textured with a moving moon and spikes sticking out of walls)

will turn off people looking for a masterpiece map,

and horribly annoying flickering light coupled with unjustifiably low framerates will keep them away.

'Nuff said. Sorry Mel, but I need more to my maps!

quillion 07-17-2004 08:13 PM EDT Rating: 0.5

map is small which is ok, but it has no flow or feel to it. the worst thing is that pool of whatever!

1st you see a skybox under it but nothing to keep water in:s have a floor. btw your maps preformance is real bad.

Ironblayde 07-17-2004 03:00 PM EDT

Repeat after me, kids. Flagrant abuse of dynamic lighting is a Bad Thing.

Mellburn 01-26-2005 05:01 AM EST

Got it, thanks 4 comments...We have a lot 2 learn yet... Changes since the first "edition":

- Dynamic Lights are now off, giving the map much better FPS.(Thanks 2 comments at NC3)

- New textures gives the map a better look. - A couple of "holes" in the walls.

This map is a part of the "MelsoftCTFmappack" and runs on: "MELSOFT Instagib Custom Maps":213.112.167.248:7788.

I hope this is an Improvement from the first map....All comments are welcome good or bad.

GTD-Carthage 11-19-2004 08:29 AM EST

Flagrant abuse of dynamic lighting is a Bad Thing.

Mel! You haven't changed your map-pack's logo! We suggested you remove the guy fingering and the mouths inter-twisting! Such graphic images discourage most to download your maps

knullansikte 09-06-2006 04:36 AM EDT	Rating: 8.5
Nice, fast map - good for Instagib.. @triplekill: do you even know how to play this game? I doubt it...
triplekill 08-30-2006 03:56 AM EDT	Rating: 4.5
Not so bad, this is likely an early "Mel-Map" but it's NOT an 8 - knullansikte!!
FreedomSR 09-06-2006 03:44 PM EDT
lol you come here only rate for gameplay? wtf?

CTF-Mellinium

Map Description:

Mellinium is set in a medival, "castle" type of textures.There is a lot of alternative "paths" to the flagbases.

It looks like *#%£ but it IS fun to play:)

Map Comments

Mellburn 01-26-2005 04:43 AM EST

Would be cool if someone made a comment on this map...

EDIT: Nevermind the screenshot, plz comment the MAP?

EDIT: Middle finger REMOVED! :)

CursedSoul1 12-06-2004 12:12 PM EST

i wont, becouse i will only repeat myself, and you are not listening.

edit> every box = playable.

RedFistOfFury 12-07-2004 06:43 AM EST

middle fingers everywhere...man it pisses me off.

Evil Snack 12-07-2004 02:58 PM EST

I know how you feel........I don't liked being flipped off either. The middle finger is getting old.

CTF-MelCastle

Map Description:

Again another map in "medival castle" -like design.

Lots of "kickers" and stuff.There is a number of different paths from flag to flag...

Fast gameplay, instagib mod. (of course)

User Rating 5.5

Map Comments :

CursedSoul1 12-23-2004 03:54 AM EST

Just wait and see huh? still the same stuff, not impressed.

To make it worse, you added a mylevel.utx THATS BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD, really mel.. learn.

add your textures in the mylevel imbedded in your map, not in a mylevel.utx, melskull or meltex..

becouse you added a mylevel.utx other maps will f*ck up, and the engine will have problems with this.

(not enough to make it crash most of the time)

I advice you to add all of your textures in the mylevel

(you dont have to save the mylevel.utx since its imbedded in the map itself,

but since you dont listen to anybody and still not using any tutorials you still make stupid mistakes) give up or learn.

i waited.. and it seems i waited for nothing...again. again your lighting is washed,

you have a room, it has windows, through those windows you see a skybox,

when you exit the room you walk trough a hallway that leads you on the other side of the window..

so how in hells name can you see the outside trough the window, when there is supposed to be a wall from the hallway....

you got tonz of bsp-holes and hom fx, you just slapped half of your brushes in the map without thinking

(i can tell by the way they are placed (halway trough walls etc)

this map deserves 'the finger'and ignore redfist, we all do.

*cough* we dont pump a lot of maps since we put a lot of time, though, detail and love in our maps*cough*

and we have personal lifes, school, college and work.

also there is something like personal problems.

but since you are probably only fictional you dont know about stuff like that.

also red: http://nalicity.beyondunreal.com/map_hub.php?mid=5671

This is prove that you talk without using your brain. edit: actually.. why am I even bothering...

/me takes some tranquilizers and will ignore tards and their maps from now on.

edit: deleted the useless harsh stuff. just map, and have fun mapping :)

thats more important. :)

redfist 12-18-2004 11:03 PM EST

The screenies look much better than his other maps.

Cursed is too criticle

Getting tired of such know it alls why aint you guys pumping out awsoome,killer,high quality maps faster ?

If it's so easy.you talk the talk,but one map uploaded from you aint doing it man.

And this "no time excuse" hell your so good you should make maps fast,but still you have only one Atypical ut04 map on nalicity bagh.........

ChromeBallz 12-16-2004 11:15 AM EST

screenies don't tell the whole story....

Ve//DeTTa 12-16-2004 03:33 PM EST

and please, please use spectator mode for your screenies, so we dont have to look at the stupid weapon.

Kantham 12-16-2004 05:11 PM EST

i agree whit curesed souls , you can at least make little efort importing in MyLevel package ...

It is true , School ,College , mapping is just a pass time , i totaly agree

Evil Snack 12-26-2004 05:05 PM EST

Mel, Mel, Mel, Mel............People have told you improve your maps! it dosen't matter how Fast you make them.....

What matters is how Well you make them.

The next time you start a map, spend some time on it!

See Mel, you just made me go into Cheesy Football Coach Mode!

Thats how much I want you to improve! Edit: Right on petrus!

He is getting a bit better, but I'm really just agreeing with the fact that you like CTF-Warrior....

Jebidiah 12-16-2004 10:25 PM EST Rating: 3

I simply must reply to redfist... You want to see the "critical people" pump out some more maps.

Therein lies the problem! Unreal mapping is, unquestionably, a matter of quality over quantity, and quality takes time.

End of story.

Now, for the real stuff...The first word that comes to mind with this level is "clump.

" Why? Because everything seems to have been heavy-handedly mushed together.

To be fair, some of the textures were kind of nice, although often missaligned, and decoration seemed random.

Gameplay became a ten-second capture affair once I found the underground tunnel,

and the previously mentioned window-into-hallway thing is also a problem.

Of course, the utter lack of pickups is a pain as well and the bots had all been dropped on their heads as children.

Sigh, every map deserves a fair judgement, even if the reviewer regrets bothering afterward... :-)

souldividersjosz 12-18-2004 06:44 PM EST

Great, just great, another typical NC discussion gone sour, keep it up guys,

it won't take long before people start to avoid coming here... oh wait, that has already started...

cobra6 12-19-2004 03:38 PM EST Rating: 6

Good map man. But need some bot pathing ajustment, and not enough health and so on.

But if it is for instaGib, them it is all right.

Mellburn 12-26-2004 02:20 AM EST

Thank you for comments but special thanks to Cobra6,(my highest rating ever on NC!)

[EDIT:](my second highest...THX Petrus !)

Yes it IS made for Instagib, as all my other CTF maps are.

This is NOT what you´ve been waiting for "CursedSoul1"...I hope I can make it before 2k5...

EDIT:Well I KNOW I can impress you Cursed, but not in the way YOU think...

just wait a little longer.... ;)

Mister_Prophet 12-22-2004 03:34 AM EST

Screenshots don't look as bad as you guys are saying.

And whoever keeps requesting these maps to be reviewed by me...well stop it:)

RedFistOfFury 12-22-2004 06:13 AM EST

LOL, redfist, you should really use your eyes, fingers and brain,

cursed has more maps than you think lol, just search/visit his homepage.

(wtf does vladderbeest mean??)

You are just too lazy to really look around you and learn.

And I feel bad that I share half of my name with you.

as for this map, It looks ok but it's still not what I expect from ut maps in 2004.

Petrus 12-26-2004 11:55 PM EST Rating: 7

I downloaded this map myself, and I'm not sure what all the fuss is about.

It's true that the textures could use some work,

but considering I still can't figure out how to make decent custom textures myself,

I'm definitely not going to trash anybody else for attempting to make them.

From a conceptual point of view, I really liked some of the architecture,

although when I opened it up in UnrealEd,

I thought it was true what some people have said here that Mel possibly rushed it a bit,

as a number of the brushes overlapped with each other.

I liked the sliding platform things though...

cute little novelty there, and not enough people think out of the box with movers, unfortunately.

The map is also a bit too cramped for my own personal tastes,

but that's only because I tend to prefer fairly large, open air CTF maps...so that's nothing against Mel's execution of this one.

I hope Mel isn't put off by the reception this map got, though...

because even though it might be true that it was a bit rushed,

I liked a number of the ideas I saw here, and so I'd like to see any future maps he puts together.

I give it a 7 for the aesthetics, some of the concepts, and the overall interest factor,

but the texture issues, BSP snags, and small size of the map meant it was really a curiousity only for me...

Not one that I'd actually play on a regular basis, I will admit.

Make it a fair bit larger and fix the BSP problems though, and that would probably change...

I like the existing architecture. I try and look at a map also from an overall perspective, not from any one particular angle.

EDIT: I just went through Mel's map history,

and for those of you paying attention, he *is* improving...

this map is actually quite a radical improvement over his previous work.

There is a definite evolutionary pattern here I think...and if he keeps going, he will eventually become a solid mapper.

Keep trying, Mel...You'll get there.

Download CTF-Warrior if you want an example of the type of CTF map I really like myself.

EDIT: quillion...I guess that's my point...that I don't think this map IS exactly the same as his previous attempts.

I looked at your stuff, which is interesting...some nice brushwork.

With MelCastle though I saw myself why reviewers say that ignoring the grid is a bad thing.

quillion 12-26-2004 07:00 PM EST

Petrus, you said 'he *is* improving...this map is actually quite a radical improvement over his previous work.

There is a definite evolutionary pattern here I think'.

Not to be a bighead or anything, but take a look at my maps from the start.

That is what i call a evolutionary pattern. From total crap to, well half decent.

What most mean here is that he has had DOZENS of good mappers, give very good advice.

Mel seems tobe ignoring it all and just making the same quality tbh and now people have just give up!

Oh and merry xmas everyone;P

knullansikte 07-16-2006 01:21 PM EDT	Rating: 7
Not your best map but OK anyway!
XYZ8000 07-16-2006 03:30 PM EDT	Rating: 1.5
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FreedomSR 07-17-2006 02:20 PM EDT
a ok map rate more higher than 6?!
triplekill 08-30-2006 03:53 AM EDT	Rating: 7.5
Some of the above comments are way out of line I think! I've seen far worse maps getting good and encouraging comments on Nali City. What do you people have against this mapper and why does he get flamed before you even try the map? I actually enjoy jonnymellis's maps (not all of them but most...)

CTF-Mellissa

Author: JonnyMellis

Gametype UT Capture the Flag Date Added 01-26-2005

File Size 1.79 mb

Map Description:

This map follows my previous maps design (ctf-melcastle), kind of "castle-manor"-type textures.

With 4 kickers, 2 lifts and 2 teleporters there is quite a few different paths from flag 2 flag...

User Rating 2.5

Map Comments:

Mellburn 02-20-2005 02:31 PM EST

EDIT1: This zip should now contain the screenshots...

EDIT2: Took a while 4 me 2 find the "edit map info" button...

Should be ok now...Thx Hourences 4 your trouble...

EDIT3: Thanks for comments :)

I almost miss "CursedSoul1" and "RedFistOfFury"´s encouraging comments...

EDIT4: to "MartinW" : I have NOT stolen "everything" from Undying,

bits and pieces here and there...

(given credits to the undying mappers in the "readme"-file) and it is the RESULT that counts, isn´t it?

- The creative part of making a map has to be in the overall compilation of

different elements imho and not in the skill of making 3D objects or am I wrong?

Kantham 01-27-2005 06:12 AM EST

dude , why you dont add screen shot right now?

WOW , i must be dreaming , SOH_ghost rated this map a 5

Hourences 01-25-2005 02:28 PM EST

I tried to email you 3 times and all mails bounced.

We cannot edit your zip like you asked, you must or a.

completely reupload the map using the update process or b. better in this case,

add the screenshots yourself via the Edit map page button you have on your right side.

I noticed your post account wasn't associated with your author account

so it may have been that in the past you weren't able to edit your maps pages but that should be fixed now.

So try, thats what the edit map page is for

EvilSwanky 02-19-2005 01:42 PM EST Rating: 0

Shots look a bit better than your previous works, but they still need a lot of work, especially lighting and layout...

@ MartinW - is that so...? Well then... stealing things is a bad thing. => 0

SoH_Ghost3021 01-26-2005 06:11 PM EST Rating: 5

hmm...getting better! i think i see...a shadow! :p

ok lighting is improving and so is layout/archi, so im givin this an adverage.

not below, and not above. i had a bit of fun with this one!

GTD-Carthage 01-26-2005 08:11 PM EST

I can see a big improvement Mel, keep it up.

RayZidane 01-28-2005 03:03 PM EST

cool, better than all your other maps

XepptizZ 01-28-2005 08:34 PM EST

I just wanted to say that Jonny's first maps got bashed to death,

they were really bad, but even after some improvements he still gets bashed,

Jonny never flamed if I remember correctly and thus find it sometimes unjustified,

now it's all fun and games? O, well, I see a lotta new guys to.I'll check the map later.

GreetZ XepptizZ

MartinW 02-19-2005 08:19 AM EST Rating: 0

Hey guys, I know you thought that Mel finally succeeded in making a map that is not completely crappy.

I thought he really tries to improve his skills.

But we were all wrong.

He stole everything from the entrance hall of the manor in Clive Barkers Undying. Mel, aren't you ashamed?

redfist 02-20-2005 02:07 AM EST Rating: 6.5

Ah,is that the area ware you go behind the steps,

and doors that werent open till you made it out from the top door,in undying?

map should still not get zero's thats still not right .

I am only posting a score this time, to rebutt the damn zero posts.I did not play the map.

Revelation 02-21-2005 05:03 PM EST Rating: 0

After eternaly mapping crap now starting to rip from other games and thinking noone would notice...

THIS is poor.

[edit] I've said nothing against getting ideas from other games, and MartinW didn't, too.

But ripping and then passing it as as his own creation does not deserve anythnig else but a zero.

(Well, actually, it DOES deserve something else, but a zero is the worst we can give him...)

CursedSoul1 02-21-2005 02:51 PM EST

It isnt that bad that he takes idea's from other maps,

or even copy/paste stuff.

Its better if he just looks at the stuff from other games/maps and try to improve em.

Imho a zero is to low and kinda childish.

mel keep on mapping, try to improve yourself though :)

knullansikte
08-23-2006 07:20 AM EDT

Rating: 10

I have not tried the map yet but I rate a 10 for some balance with all these "zero-raters" posting their comments on Mels maps...

@FreedomSR :

I'd like to play a 1 on 1 on any unreal game with you, total fukkup!

FreedomSR
07-21-2006 11:54 PM EDT

Rating: 0

and begin of 0 raters I thought a person who rate 10 is a most retard guy

Deceased
08-23-2006 01:46 PM EDT

it's been said before that anyone who rates a map 0 or 10 must be retarded...no map can be that bad and good. now shut up you two, leave the fighting for some other place and get back to REAL comments and ratings.

cccdeathstorm
08-23-2006 02:43 PM EDT

Rating: 9.5

there, no 10, but still compensates.
and if you rate a map 0 cause it comes from another game, BUT totally rebuild by mell, you suck man, all mappers get there inspiration from something they saw someday/where, so they're al thiefs, and every map should be rated zero, pls think before ya rate, this map is worth waaaaay more then those 0's, waaaaay more.

West
08-23-2006 04:57 PM EDT

Rating: 2

Truth be told, I have never played a map by JonnyMellis before. Judging from screenshots and comments (well, some comments at least) we're talking major league rubbish so I simply haven't bothered. But finally this never-ceasing controversy has made me curious enough to download one of Mel's maps and play it.

First of all, I happen to like CB's Undying -- while hardly a perfect game, it's one of the creepiest and most atmospheric FPS titles ever made IMO -- and therefore I was kind of wary when I loaded this map up, expecting some real horrid rip. But it's not so bad really. Except for that the map is a little too open overall, and that those darn kickers are more annoying than useful, Mel has managed to make a pretty good CTF layout from that mirrored manor foyer from Undying.

That said, almost everything else is, if not outright crappy, very sloppy. Door movers stick out of the walls, textures seem chosen and applied at random, lighting is uninspired at best. Call me silly, but I dislike playing slop-maps like this. If the author can't be bothered to put some effort into the design of the map, why should I spend time on downloading and playing it?

Secondly, I see a mapper who should begin, or go back to, mapping for QIIIA. It's glaringly obvious where Mel gets his inspiration. I have never been a fan of UT maps that tries to be Quake (if I wanted to play Quake maps, why would I be playing UT to begin with?) so that lowers what could have been a fair score drastically. It's clear that Mel wants to make pubertal Quake-style goth maps, but he just isn't able to pull it off convincingly (partly because he's using UT textures, and partly because he's too lazy). Also, including a custom texture pack just to put skulls in the map, that's just plain damn silly. Why not a Manowar song for background music as well?

Finally I must say that this is in spite of all an okay-ish map. I'd rate it 6 if it was Mel's work throughout. But since the only visually appealing and original part of the map is ripped, I will subtract 3 points. I'll also subtract one point for the tasteless and badly executed theme. What we have left is one point for working, and one point for providing some passable gameplay. I know some people are gonna whine, but I have tried to be as fair as I can possibly be.

Mel is clearly a guy who knows his way around the editor. What he lacks is taste and patience, and without those he'll never be able to create something that'll appeal to anyone but the funnel/spam kids to whom everything but fast 'n' crazy gameplay is secondary. I'm not gonna try to give him any mapmaking advice (I have very little to offer really) since he seems perfectly happy making his special kind of maps. I won't be playing any more of them, but as long as he and his target audience is happy -- great.

MikElectric 07-19-2007 09:08 AM EDT	Rating: 9
Great map! This is probably "jonnymellis" best map, nice gameplay! Nevermind if he copied some...it's the result that counts!
Z33 07-19-2007 05:17 PM EDT
Wow the hostility, I don't think it matters that he so called stole ideas i think it's the best way to learn how to map.

DM-Melicious

Author: JonnyMellis

Gametype UT Deathmatch. Date Added 04-11-2005

File Size 2.03 mb

Map Description:

This is an old DM-map I made a couple of years ago...(it sux but is kinda fun 2 play)

I replaced the old textures with some new ones...(still sux though)

I think it´s better than "Melfunnel-XI" anyway...

User Rating 1.5

Map Comments:

GenMoKai 04-11-2005 05:25 PM EDT Rating: 0

PLZ KILL ME. THIS IS TO AWFULL !!!!! K download the map

and see HOW many bugs,redeemers, SupershockRifles and stuff

To maby amp dmg and superhealth Teleports hmmm okay 2 a room with a redeemer :S

that's why its awfull

Sicko Teddy 04-11-2005 04:04 PM EDT

What do you mean- 0 and awful? even screenchots looks great! explain yourself please!

XepptizZ 04-11-2005 06:52 PM EDT

Mel has a pretty bad record here. I might try this one in a few,

but it already looks like it could be a lot better, but he struck ambience.

For some reason his map breaths it from a glance.

The lighting is wat does it most, it looks like a ruins setting in a rocky canyon with the sunlight barely reaching it.

But in the screnies you can clearly see a closed up roof.

So, the light is unsourced, but htis could be something really nice and gave me lots of inspiration.

The textures are wel chosen adn add to the ruins temple idea,

but it doesn't all seem aligned greatly nor does the architecture look really stunning,

but the textures do there work wel enough to obscure that for now.

I didn't DL it yet so I won't score either, but it definitly looks like more than a 0. If it opens it's atleast a 0.5.

mozart 04-12-2005 06:47 AM EDT Rating: 2

I'm going to skip issues such as lighting, artwork and creativity and get straight to the meat of the problem.

I counted at least 7 redeemers (they reappear pretty quickly)

a supershock rifle, 2 big ol' kegs of health,

4 sheild belts and enough weapons for someone to defend themselves even in a neighborhood like mine.

all in a couple of small rooms.....yeah. +1 because it opens +1 because it plays (even on my laptop)

redfist 04-12-2005 11:12 AM EDT

Damn Mel,I didn't try the level out yet,but as soon as you get somthing going,

and then why add all the stuff redeemers in it to muff it up ?

Mellburn 04-12-2005 04:48 PM EDT

I know I messed it....but as I say in the description and "readme-doc"

its old but its fun 2 play :) and it HAS got 2 BE better than "Melfunnel-XI"

( well almost any map is :< but I´ve kept it on NC3 ´cause of all the funny comments... :) )

Kantham 04-13-2005 02:50 AM EDT

QUOTE:''well almost any map is :< but I´ve kept it on NC3

´cause of all the funny comments... :) )''NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Go away !

Frieza 04-13-2005 06:40 AM EDT

Are you sure this is old?

Something tells me its brand new, otherwise,

stop sending your old stuff and give us something new to show how

awesomely youve evolved as a mapper during all those years.

Torn_Agressor 04-14-2005 08:09 AM EDT

mabey he hasnt evolved...

JuggaloKyle 04-14-2005 10:29 AM EDT Rating: 3

im going ahead and giving the map a 3. why? because it runs,

and it has custom content, and pillars. now, what i didnt like.....

the map has almost no gameplay value.

there is about 20+ redeemeres scattered around the map.

like 3 super shock rilfe spawns. dude, you should stop making these maps like this,

and try going for something thats more of an arena style map.

and please, in your future releases, dont use redeemers, but if you do, only use one,

and make it really hard to get too so it balances out the gameplay value. but seriously,

you should make an arean type map, one that has different levels for plenty of z-axis fighting.

thats what most people like, because its fun to see somebody below you,

then to jump on them with about 5 rockets. you have alot of potential dude,

but you need to use it to surprise everybody and come out with a kick ass map.

and another thing, leave the monsters out next time also.

CTF-Melrose

Author: JonnyMellis

Gametype UT Capture the Flag. Date Added 05-12-2005

File Size 6.48 mb. Player Count 6-16

Map Description:

The map itself is my "usual crap" but this time I´ve added music

- my own...I play all the instruments myself

(except for the drumloop, but next time I´ll add an all "Mellis" song...)

I thougth maybe the song could bring up the ratings a little bit...

User Rating 4.5

Map Comments :

JuggaloKyle 05-12-2005 10:32 PM EDT Rating: 2

come on dude. why dont you take on the arena style DM maps?

instead of just waisting your time making these dumb ones,

why dont you try and make a really good one with awesome gameplay....

and weapons would be nice, just not super weapons like the redeemer.

but seriously, what are you trying to acomplish by making these?

Deathbliss 05-13-2005 05:12 PM EDT

Come on dude - you're being a little harsh.

The only way to get better at something is to keep at it as many times as it takes to master it.

I'm not a vey good mapper either, but I need the creative outlet.

That's why I still make maps, and this author certainly has their reasons.

Try some constructive critiszm, and point out the good points in a map before you comment on it.

Remember what your parents should have taught you - if you can't say anythng nice don't say anything at all.

- Deathbliss

redfist 05-14-2005 01:52 AM EDT Rating: 6.5

Plus I will check it out to hear what you have for the music,be back later.

HEY Cool you play on time,sounds good man,

you shoulda added ONE more verse-segment to your playing,but it's a kickass game type sounding pick

What I like about this map in a wierd way,is you did good spacing on the trees,

it's fun to strafe it away.

Also I am not a good judge of "CTF" so gameplay will have to goto someone else.

But your getting better map wise,this time it didn't feel so obnoctiouse of a place to fight in,

better colors better looking than all your other maps ,so far.

Freedomshaoray 05-14-2005 10:34 PM EDT Rating: 5

not bad....But I will give a 5 for Effort....see ya then...I know you improve a lot since the last time^^

West 05-15-2005 07:50 AM EDT

"HEY Cool you play on time"...

how can you *not* play on time in a pattern-based sequencer?

In fact, can you "play" at all in a tracker program?

Mellburn 06-14-2006 04:18 AM EDT
THX 4 comments... :) The music actually IS a "wav-file" converted to 2 mono tracks... (it's LIVE except 4 the drums) EDIT: @knull... thx 4 your comment, though this map could never be a 8.5 regardless if the music was the best ever made 4 a game =) (wich it's NOT) ha det bra jävla svenne (he-he) :) @Charon... You're right of course but isn't the music actually a PART of the whole map?
knullansikte 07-16-2006 01:24 PM EDT	Rating: 7.5
The map is averege but the music ROCKS! edited; OK mell if you want me to lower my rating... fair enough...here you go! =)
Charon 05-21-2006 02:21 PM EDT
knullansikte: Could you rate MAP not MUSIC?
XYZ8000 06-15-2006 01:08 PM EDT
The music is repetitive, the map is c....y You can easily see that this map is made for online play, because you place only 2 meshes...
FreedomSR 07-22-2006 12:10 AM EDT	Rating: 0.5
Nice Map...But Kinda...Copy

DM-MelFall

Author JonnyMellis

Gametype UT Deathmatch. Date Added 06-14-2005 File Size 903 kb.

Map Description:

Another "Funnel-type" of map...I.o.w: no "piece of art".

Some z-axis or vertical action this time, the golden "cogwheel" at the bottom is a "kicker".

For those of you who aren´t familliar with "funnel-maps"

here´s a short description: The typical "funnel" map is often small in size(kb),

all playerstarts are clamped into one small space.

The better weapons are often a distance away and there´s LOTS of them

- escpecially "Redeemers".Gameplay is fast and insane...

The first one to reach the "big guns" is often the winner...

You play 6-10 of these maps on the same amount of time that one

"normal UT-DM-map" would take...

(You can play these kinds of maps at: "Leifis Funnel server" or

"MELSOFT SMALL FAST CUSTOM maps"just look in the games serverbrowser.)

User Rating 3

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